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The Truth: Thank you for taking care of this Recruitment Center in your area for us.
letter dated 1/1/2018.
i know they are trying to simplify but it all is such a confusing mess.... forms, dates, calculators, committees, logins, publisher record cards.....jesus would barf.
to all bodies of elders re: announcements and reminders dear brothers: in an effort to reduce the number of letters sent to all bodies of elders and congregations, most announcements from the branch office will now be conveyed to congregations by means of the announcements and reminders (s-147) form.
Third sentence from the bottom.
The Truth: Thank you for taking care of this Recruitment Center in your area for us.
i was talking to a jdub yesterday about child abuse in the organisation and this was his response:.
"it has been known for kids to make stuff up.
we have to trust the society on these things, also the legal process is there.
Everyone knows "child abuse" happens at every KHall.
Smacking, slapping, spanking, twisting of skin.
Child is young and needs to be home tucked into bed to sleep but instead is wearing dress up clothes at an adult recruitment/selling seminar.
Older child, teenager needs to stay home and do homework and study for school tests not be dressed up sitting at the Hall.
It is abusive not to be in team/competitive sports where you get needed exercise, encouragement and feelings of achievement.
It is abusive to not let a child be who they want to be.
We are not even discussing sex abuse here. In matters of sexual abuse, what motive(s) does an adult have in saying children lie and make this horrendeous life changing event up? The adults are lying and continuing the cover up.
i'd like share why i went from being a teenager determined to work in full time service for jehovah my entire life, to now being on here commiserating with you all.
i use to be an atheist but i now believe in god.
but i'm not preachy about god.
DanToole87, Welcome to this site where you can share and get "refreshment" for your soul. You have been put through so much. You sound like a good guy surrounded by big ego narcissists and they made you their target.
You had normal reactions to your sweetheart and did what normal human beings the world over do. Feel each other up to start with. It is not uncleanness it is normal behavior. The bad part was telling elders that love gossip and spreading stories, especially sexual content ones. You have no idea how they can embellish a simple story. At each others home and gatherings, some elders get their jollies telling these stories and making fun of the people that "confess" and tell them personal stuff.
Even you wife mentioning weed. Did she really have to tell on your personal business???
Narcissists get their jollies on hurting people. Damaging their reputations. They do it on purpose because they are twisted and it makes them happy to see a good person like yourself, have your life ruined. Your good reputation gone. Three (3) hours in service for one month under severe conditions and that wasn't good enough for them when you had voluntarily already done so much? Petty little mean spirited men. (You have no idea what things they might be up to in private. Probably would make your confessions look like small potatoes but they are in The Boys Club. You aren't and they (not god) deemed you unfit to be in their inter circle).
I am sorry you have been hurt so much. We on this site understand. We have been hurt and our good reputations dragged through the mud also.
Please continue to post and let us know how you are getting over the pain of it all.
Are you still in Utah?
Hugs of concern even sympathy to a young man with a little child that was treated so badly by the only friends he knew.
i have been going through old papers and photographs since my mother passed away.
it has reminded me of some of the reasons that i really hate november.
this year has added to it obviously.. thirty-four years ago, my father passed away in early november.
JRK I hope you can rest tonight. You are a good son and you lost your beloved mother. No matter how much we dislike death, that is what happens to all living things. It doesn't make it any easier though. She was your hero. You of course miss her. To lose someone we love, is one of the hardest things that can happen to us.
To keep her memory alive you need to look after yourself. Be good to yourself like your mom was good to you. Eat well. Exercise. Get some fresh air. Remember all the good happy times. How sweet of you to light a cinnamon scented candle with a red cardinal on it. All for the happy time, memories of her.
I am sorry she had to leave you. All parents usually go first. It is just the way life is. If she could have stayed and lived to be 100, you know she would have stayed. She wouldn't want this to be such a painful time for you. You know she would want to comfort you and make you happy and not make you cry.
I am a mother myself. In your mom's behalf, would you mind if I might send you a big, warm, comforting hug to you, to help console you at this very sad time? I have fluffed your pillows and your bed is all warm and cosy. I kiss your forehead and wish you a good night and sweet dreams. I am sure your mom loved you very much and if you were my son, I would add before turning off the lights, good night my son. I love you JRK more than you will ever know. Night, night.
2 pioneers of the opposite sex.
the brother is in his mid-20s, sister is in her late 20s.
both are alone in car as the only 2 out in field service.
There is a circuit overseer. Before he joined the ranks of this prestiage step up the JW..org ladder, he was just the presiding overseer and prominant at all assemblys giving talks. He had a son.
In the same small congo there was an approperiate age girl. They did what normal teenagers do but did not use protection. Yes, she got pregnant. It just so happened her uncle was the district overseer.
Big surprise! No one got DF! Not when your Uncle Wayne is a district overseer. In fact... He came and gave the wedding talk!
Let's see. Education is bad except when you are GB Albert Schroeder's son Judah. Sex before marriage is bad unless your uncle is a district overseer.
2 pioneers of the opposite sex.
the brother is in his mid-20s, sister is in her late 20s.
both are alone in car as the only 2 out in field service.
@Hoser: Edmonton
While on vacation a special pioneer couple got cosy with us (which means the brothers wanted to share juicy stuff... ) and told us he was invited to go to the Elders school in Edmonton. The Bethel brother assigned at the last minute couldn't come so they assigned an elder from Edmonton to head it up. This special pio "T" said he did not like this elder at all. He was so self righteous and full of himself that it was hard to listen and pay attention to him, but he felt this was his failing and so he sat, listened etc.
Not too long after this, it comes out that this self righteous JW man... had been paying for an apartment for his pioneer girlfriend to stay in... for years! It was considered too big of a disgrace to DF them and have this made public knowledge, after all, God/Bethel had chosen him to take the Elders School, to set the example on how all elders were to act.
He quietly divorced, married his mistress and we were told they changed their last name and moved to Vancouver Island where after a short time became an elder again.
All swept under the rug.
2 pioneers of the opposite sex.
the brother is in his mid-20s, sister is in her late 20s.
both are alone in car as the only 2 out in field service.
There was a single male missionary down in a country where it was considered normal to have a wife and at least one mistress. So his reasoning was, Hey, that could work for me! It did for a while until found out and DF and then deported.
we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.
he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.
he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.
Pale I am so sorry and upset with how these a$$hats treat your brother!
Shameful!
Your brother needs you. So glad you are there for him. He must be so scared and confused and horribly upset... but not with you! It melted my heart that you did what a decent person would do. You sat beside him and held his hand and gave him comfort.
As far as the HLC, I was involved in something serious, not me, but I was there. The patient was literally dying in front of our eyes and this moron HLC elder was grinning like an idiot saying what a fine witness is being given here today. I wanted to kick his a$$ into the universe.
If there is any way possible to convey to your dear sensitive sweetheart brother that there are friends out here, from all over the world on this site that care about you and him and all the ones that woke up to JW..org lies and left that we want him to get well and live a long and healthy and joyous life as far away from WT/JW..org as possible.
Gentle hugs of love and support to you and your brother.
dear mr. anthony morris,.
i see that you made a brochure for me and all inactive jehovah's witnesses.
i won't bother reading it because what you present and what is the truth are too far apart.
What an a$$hole!
He wants any naive person to return to give him money!!! Otherwise... How does their Empire survive? He doesn't work. None of the 7 Glorious Ones work in the real world where they get real money! He needs real money, yours and my real money so he can survive.
He is a mean SOB moocher! He is a parasite! A leach!
"Oh... Please come back! I can't keep living in my castle by the lake AND pay off child abuse Court Rulings.... Waaa waaa waaa". (Crying pity for himself, crocodile tears).
we are seeking additional details regarding the child sex abuse case in redbluff, ca, around 2005-2007.. http://watchtowerdocuments.org/documents/secrets_commentary_version_2.pdf.
see pages 20-22. we are looking for first hand knowledge of these events.
our purpose is to make a compelling argument to officials with the authority to make a difference.. please pm me.. many thanks, cha ching.
@Brokeback Watchtower.
Would you mind sending me a safe email address with your name from here (Brokeback Watchtower) in a PM please? I would like to talk to you through my name here on this site.
I can read PM's but cannot send them.
Thank you so much.